Alarmists want skeptics prosecuted under RICO

By |2015-10-01T05:14:17+00:00September 30th, 2015|CFACT Insights|75 Comments

They haven’t employed the thumb screws, rack, or auto-da-fe that churches and states once used to interrogate, silence, and eliminate heretics and witches. However, global warming alarmists are well practiced in the modern equivalents, to protect their $1.5 trillion Climate Crisis Industry.

They see only what they want to see, and publicize only what they want us to see. They refuse to debate anyone who questions the nature, severity, or reality of “man-made climate change dangers” that are the foundation of their demands that we slash fossil fuel use, lower our living standards, and accept global government planning of economies and massive climate “adaptation and reparation” payments.

They collude to hide and manipulate data, and employ computer models that that make the Little Ice Age disappear and global temperatures climb rapidly after 1950. They pressure editors to keep contrarian papers out of scientific journals, and present false claims that 97% of scientists agree that humans are causing dangerous climate change. They take billions from government agencies whose policies and regulations they promote. They blindly ignore the serious adverse effects that their policies have on blue-collar families and the world’s poor. Imbued with religious zeal, now they’re really ramping it up.

Led by Jagadish Shukla and four associates at his George Mason University-based Institute of Global Environment and Society, NCAR researcher Kevin Trenberth and 14 little-known “climate scientists” joined in signing an astounding letter that shows how far they will go to defend their turf and cause.

It asks President Obama, Attorney General Loretta Lynch, and Obama science advisor John Holdren to investigate “organizations that have knowingly deceived the American people about the risks of climate change,” under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act.

Behind barsThe letter claims the organizations’ actions “have been extensively documented,” and their “misdeeds” must be “stopped as soon as possible,” so that the world can “restabilize the Earth’s climate, before even more lasting damage is done” to human health, agriculture, biodiversity and the world’s poorest people.

The letter’s ironies, fallacies, and falsehoods are almost too numerous to recount.

First, the attack on skeptic scientists was launched from a university named for George Mason, the patriot who wrote the original Virginia version of our Bill of Rights. They include freedom of speech, association, assembly, petitioning our government, and not having livelihoods and other property unreasonably seized. Sadly, it reflects the appalling state of “academic freedom” on too many campuses, which today celebrate every kind of diversity except diversity of opinion.

Second, this action is a blatant effort to (a) coerce, intimidate, slander, and silence scientists and organizations that question human-caused climate dangers; (b) forcibly shut down skeptic research, funding, speech, and publication; (c) destroy skeptics’ funding, businesses, and livelihoods; (d) protect alarmist funding, standing, and influence; and (e) bankrupt skeptics, who would have to spend personal fortunes responding to RICO charges and a Justice Department that has limitless resources at its disposal.

Third, the RICO-20 signed their names as members of university faculties and government agencies – suggesting that they represent their organizations and/or these organizations endorse their efforts. If that is the case, it represents another blatant double standard – and a tacit endorsement of the RICO agenda.

Will those institutions now demand that the RICO-20 remove any mention of their affiliations? Will they step forward to vigorously defend academic freedom, constitutional rights, and a scientific method that is severely undermined by this letter and other toxic battles over man-made climate cataclysm claims?

Fourth, RICO is used to prosecute underlying patterns or practices of criminal behavior. This letter may constitute just “acting out.” But whether it represents a pattern of alarmist parties illegally engaging in items (a) through (e) above by calling for criminal prosecution of climate skeptics – or whether opposing the ideological and political campaign for the anti-fossil fuel climate agenda constitutes the required “criminal enterprise” – remains unanswered.

In any event, the “misdeeds” alluded to in the RICO-20 letter are studies, reports, and discussions that contradict alarmist allegations and what skeptics charge are exaggerations, fabrications, and computer model failures that underlie those claims. This extensive library of challenges to the climate chaos thesis includes peer-reviewed NIPCC Climate Change Reconsidered reports, international climate skeptic conferences, and numerous articles, op-eds, interviews, and briefings. They clearly undermine climate chaos theory, but they are protected free speech and reflect honest, replicable science.

This raises the fifth point, that “racketeering” means conducting a “racket.” The term is commonly understood to mean fraudulently offering to solve a problem, because the problem does not actually exist and/or the proffered “solution” would do nothing to solve the problem. Many would say this definition accurately describes the Climate Crisis Industry.

Climate change has been “real” throughout Earth and human history. Driven by powerful natural forces that we do not yet understand and certainly cannot control, it has ranged from gradual to sudden, from beneficial to harmful or even devastating. Contrary to alarmist assertions and computer models, there is still no observational evidence that what we are experiencing today —

*is different from what our ancestors confronted;

*is now driven by plant-fertilizing carbon dioxide instead of by the natural forces of yore; or

*could be prevented or controlled by ending fossil fuel use and dramatically lowering our living standards.

In fact, the notion that we can “restabilize” an unstable and frequently fluctuating planetary climate is ludicrous. So is any claim that carbon-based fuels are superfluous or readily dispensable – or that they are more damaging to human health, agriculture, biodiversity, and the world’s poorest people than eliminating those fuels and relying on expensive, land-intensive, unreliable wind, solar, and biofuel “substitutes.”

Equally doubtful is any suggestion that the IGES/COLA (Center for Ocean-Land-Atmosphere Studies) can understand or predict Earth’s ongoing climate variations by focusing on carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, and ignoring the solar, cosmic, oceanic, and other natural forces that govern climate.

However, IGES/COLA derived 99.6% of its 2014 funding ($3.8 million in taxpayer money) from NASA, NOAA, and the National Science Foundation, according to IRS Form 990 and other documents. Under the Obama Administration, those agencies have been almost completely co-opted by the alarmist climate agenda – and would likely terminate funding for any organization that expressed doubts about CO2, reduced its focus on greenhouse gases, or reengineered its climate models to reflect the full panoply of natural forces and thereby better assure accurate monsoon and climate forecasting.

Indeed, the latest Form 990 reveals, Dr. Shukla and his wife received salaries and other compensation totaling $499,145 in 2014 from their tax-exempt research organization. Dr. Shukla worked there only part-time, and his $333,048 compensation package “was presumably on top of his $250,866-per-year[George Mason] academic salary.” That totals $750,000 a year to the RICO-20 leader and his family “from public money for climate work & going after skeptics,” Professor Roger Pielke, Jr., wrote.Rico manual

The ultimate irony would be an evenhanded investigation that exonerates the skeptic organizations that the RICO-20 want investigated – and results in charges against multiple corporations and organizations (and government agencies?) that engaged in collusion, data manipulation, junk modeling, and other deceitful climate research practices that have been highlighted over the years.

The Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of conservative groups could well be what inspired the now fashionable idea of using the Justice Department to prosecute political opponents. The failure of the IRS and DOJ to penalize any of the perpetrators in those cases suggests that prosecution of alarmist fraud or racketeering is highly unlikely under the current administration.

However, the new 2017 administration could take a very different position. At the very least, a new Congress and Executive Branch could derail the climate alarm money train, initiate robust (and long overdue) debate on climate science and models, provide equal funding to skeptics, and end the alarmism. Potential sauce for the gander should make Dr. Shukla and fellow alarmists think twice about their tactic.

This RICO travesty shows how desperate alarmists have become. They are losing the climate science fight. Their models are increasingly contradicted by reality. Their ad hominem attacks will ultimately fail.

They also face major odds in Paris, where they may get a toothless treaty that makes empty promises to redistribute hundreds of billions of dollars from Formerly Rich Countries whose energy use and economic growth are hobbled – but places no binding emission targets on poor countries that will keep developing, burning coal, and sending atmospheric carbon dioxide levels ever higher … with no effect on the climate.


  1. Ian5 September 30, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    The “astounding letter” nevertheless makes an excellent point: “The methods of these organizations are quite similar to those used earlier by the tobacco industry. A RICO investigation (1999 to 2006) played an important role in stopping the tobacco industry from continuing to deceive the American people about the dangers of smoking.”

    • Brin Jenkins October 3, 2015 at 3:50 AM

      You don’t support this persecution do you? Sounds typical Bolshevik to me.

      Might be better to ask someone who is able to explain the CO2 cycle in detail.

      • Ian5 October 3, 2015 at 12:27 PM

        No, I don’t support persecution. Nor do I support persons or organizations that feign victimization as a means of deflecting criticism. Read the United States v. Philip Morris Judgement. The Department of Justice sued tobacco companies for their decades-long campaign to mislead, misrepresent and deceive the American public about the health risks of cigarettes.

        The Court and US Court of Appeals ruled that the First Amendment does not protect fraudulent statements, stating that “[tobacco industry lobbyists] knew of their falsity at the time and made the statements with the intent to deceive”.

    • Francisco Machado October 3, 2015 at 12:57 PM

      I don’t think the AGW cabal can reasonably be compared to the tobacco industry. The cigarette companies were trying to sell a product – which the public was under no obligation to buy and about which negative information was never banned or condemned. And they were subject to prosecution for false advertising where that could be proven. The purchase of the AGW “product” is not voluntary. It is in government grants and in restrictions that cost the public very large amounts of money taken from them as taxes or by double digit increases in the cost of energy – which increases the cost of everything. And when the “promised” predictions of their projected models are not realized despite the cost and inconvenience, they are not stood before a court and interrogated under oath. Their government grants are not even cancelled. they increasingly demonstrate themselves to be not only an ideology but a cult, demonizing dissenters, name calling, declining (rather revealing!) invitations to debate the issue, even selling indulgences. By comparison, those who disagree with the AGW catechism seem reasonable and rational – they even invite public debate.

      • Ian5 October 3, 2015 at 9:23 PM

        No you’re all confused. In both cases the scientific evidence clearly indicate negative impacts – public health risks and disease from
        smoking and serious consequences to the planetary system from rising GHGs. And in both cases there’s been an organized campaign to mislead, misrepresent and deceive the public as a strategy to protect interests and delay action. Not surprisingly some of the same people are involved in both campaigns.

      • Ian5 October 3, 2015 at 9:31 PM

        “…not only an ideology but a cult”:
        Just so I’m clear, are you saying that NASA, MIT, NOAA, the American Academy of Sciences and countless other scientific and research institutions part of this cult?

  2. cshorey October 1, 2015 at 2:29 PM

    Wow, the article is right that RICO might be used, but the very case in which it is being discussed was not brought up in this article (which is riddled with falsehoods as it is). It has come to light that Exxon scientists did the climate science in the 1960’s and 70’s and came to the conclusion that man made climate change was real, and that they should leave 80% of the fossil fuels in the ground to avoid serious changes. These studies and the internal memos that were written about it are now available. Exxon then went on to fund organizations that put out bad information like this article. This shows a corrupt corporate ethic causing business practices that harm the public, and that can be prosecuted under RICO. Driesen, at least get some part of the story in the story.

  3. Dano2 October 3, 2015 at 7:54 AM

    Alarmists want skeptics prosecuted under RICO

    An honest headline might read:

    Sane people want corporate liars causing public harm prosecuted under RICO




    • Wesley342 October 3, 2015 at 9:27 AM

      And your post might well read another liberal dem bloodsucker speaks

      • Dano2 October 3, 2015 at 10:04 AM

        So you are fine with corporations’ lies causing public harm.

        Aren’t you precious.



        • Brin Jenkins October 3, 2015 at 10:43 AM

          Observant though! I suppose that being unable to explain your position shutting folk up is your only viable alternative.

          • Dano2 October 3, 2015 at 10:49 AM

            No one is unable to explain their position, you are making stuff up again. I detect a pattern…



        • gbrecke October 3, 2015 at 11:03 AM

          It is normally the corrupt or the gullible who would silence a skeptic.There is no science without skeptics.

          • Dano2 October 3, 2015 at 11:19 AM

            Um, OK. Thanks for that deflection!



            • gbrecke October 3, 2015 at 11:52 AM

              According to history, you are the defection.

        • Wesley342 October 3, 2015 at 11:13 AM

          No, I am not and nor am I okay wih the lies told by the liberal denm bloodsucking green freaks.

          • Dano2 October 3, 2015 at 11:20 AM

            Thanks for the vague, inchoate outrage!



            • Wesley342 October 3, 2015 at 11:27 AM

              The measure of the rigor of a science is it’s ability to predict.
              Todate, your science is unable to predict out more thasn 24 hours.
              That leave the reasoning and competence of people like you open to question.

              • Dano2 October 3, 2015 at 12:26 PM

                Climate is measured in decades, so who knows what it is you think you are arguing. But I’ll take the points on offer anyway:

                o We can’t predict weather tomorrow, so nothing about climate is predictable [5 points]




                • Wesley342 October 3, 2015 at 2:24 PM

                  The science has made many predictions, none of them have come to pass.
                  The science has been discovered, numerous times altering data.
                  Why do you scrubs think any one would believe you?
                  There is a growing group that think that, the only way to deal with you liberal dem bloodsuckers is to effect partition and physically separate ourselves from you, in order to stop civil war.

                  • Dano2 October 3, 2015 at 4:55 PM

                    Utterly false.



                    • Wesley342 October 3, 2015 at 7:52 PM

                      You are a low life liberal dem bloodsucking liar.
                      That is why no one believes anything you fing garbage say and daily a largerr number of people want to force partition and physically separate ourselves, from you ersatz life forms, as the only way to prevent civil war.

                    • Dano2 October 3, 2015 at 8:34 PM

                      Gittin all uppity and lashin out cuz caught!

                      Here’s how the models are doing.

                      Here’s how some older models are doing.

                      And some older ones.

                      And some older ones.

                      And some older ones.

                      And some older ones all together.

                      And what several scientist said in the 1980s that was surprisingly accurate about Arab Spring.

                      Here is something from the 1970s that is surprisingly accurate as well.

                      This is where we are now.

                      Just say derp!



                    • Wesley342 October 3, 2015 at 8:45 PM

                      You are the perfect example, of why we must effect partition and physically separate ourselves from you.
                      You were born lying, it’s likely that you will die, lying

                    • Dano2 October 3, 2015 at 8:54 PM

                      Don’t have a sads and lash out at me for pointing out your false statement. Turn that frown upside down! Don’t fear The Other, improve yourself, like everyone else does!




                    • Wesley342 October 3, 2015 at 9:22 PM

                      Ersatz life form, you liberal scum are beyond redemption, please kill,yourself

                    • Dano2 October 3, 2015 at 9:26 PM


                      You made a false statement.

                      Own up to it like a man, don’t take it out on the person who is trying to educate you.

                      Educate yourself.



                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 10:50 AM

                      Normally I would be glad to get an expert opinion on any subject and certainly the peopellike ersatz life forms are experts on lying.
                      That was just your latest one.
                      Nothing you say i evidence the fact remains that you and the people like you have been cAUght altering date for 7 years now and when you get all done lying that is still a fact.
                      Don’t post graphs fom the very peopel caught altering facts and try to use it as proof, liar

                    • Dano2 October 4, 2015 at 10:53 AM

                      You made a false statement. I pointed it out.

                      Now you are whining and crying and pouting and name-calling and having a little sads.

                      Precious. Cry me a river.



                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 11:01 AM

                      Liberal dem bloodsuckers think that they way to nmake their continuous lies stick is to double down.
                      You have lied throough this series of posts, you are lying now and presumably will continue to lie, liberal dem bloodsuckers, aka American Jihadists, like your MUSlim counterparts will tell/accept any lie, any chea,t any theft if it advances your agenda.

                    • Dano2 October 4, 2015 at 11:09 AM

                      Whining and crying and complaining and pouting and ululating and namie-name calling cuz got caught in a fib.

                      Here’s a hankie.



                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 11:48 AM

                      That it, liberal dem bloodsucking liar, that all you have, triple down on the original lie?
                      I’d bet, that you speak Farsi, liar

                    • Dano2 October 4, 2015 at 11:55 AM

                      Awh! Poor thing. Here’s another hankie – you’re clearly having a sads cuz caught fibbin.



                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 12:01 PM

                      a boring liar, read the above, again

                    • Dano2 October 4, 2015 at 12:06 PM

                      You are lying about me being a liar. Must be your little sads making you cry. Here’s another hankie.



                    • Brin Jenkins October 6, 2015 at 6:02 PM

                      They most certainly will Wesley, No science from them ever and no explanations always descending into abuse. Look back over their past postings, pathetic rubbish.

                    • Dano2 October 6, 2015 at 6:26 PM

                      No science from them ever and no explanations

                      More dishonesty. My, my. This comment thread…sheesh.



                    • Brin Jenkins October 9, 2015 at 1:38 PM

                      But still no explanation of why you believe global warming is man made! Only links to other who share with you.

                    • Dano2 October 9, 2015 at 1:47 PM

                      It’s not a “belief”. It is acceptance of basic physics, empirical evidence, repeated experimentation, etc. This was settled years ago.

                      /basic stuff



                    • Wesley342 October 6, 2015 at 6:29 PM

                      Actually, it’s probably about time, I think that most of the decent people understand that, we can no longer coexist with the liberal scum

              • Ian5 October 3, 2015 at 12:33 PM

                And what is your preferred source of information on the science of climate change? Tea Party Bulletin?

                • Wesley342 October 3, 2015 at 2:27 PM

                  I will listen carefully as anyone presents information.
                  Then I google what they said
                  When I find out that some person or group is guilty of altering data, they become without merit, in my estimation.
                  That has happened at least 6 times with the group of “scientists” advocating global warming

                  • Dano2 October 3, 2015 at 8:45 PM

                    Justin Data! Will the right’s new heartthrob finally be THE ONE to validate their self-identity?!?!



                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 8:58 PM

                      You are boring, you have nothing, even your kids hate you, kill yourself

                  • Ian5 October 3, 2015 at 9:03 PM

                    Yikes, six times…can you tell us which are the guilty groups?

                    • Wesley342 October 3, 2015 at 9:25 PM

                      Sorry liberal dem bloodsucking liar.
                      It has been published over and over, I have no intention of playing the silly liberal dem bloodsucker game.
                      I spend my time now, trying to advance partition, from you ersatz life forms.

                    • Ian5 October 3, 2015 at 9:42 PM

                      Nice deflection. Are you part of a US state partition proposal? Which one(s)?

                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 10:52 AM

                      I am one of the roughly 50 million people that understand that we can no longer coexist with the liberal dem bloodsuckers.

                    • Dano2 October 4, 2015 at 10:53 AM

                      Good. Go to Somalia. Or Mars. Hurry up.



                    • Ian5 October 4, 2015 at 11:13 AM

                      Time machine to early medieval period?

                    • Dano2 October 4, 2015 at 11:30 AM

                      They wouldn’t have any guns to fetishize back then.

                      But otherwise excellent idea – Galtian hero would fit in perfectly as feudal lord wannabes or maybe tough-guy freedom hee-rows for hire to the highest freedom bidder (if they were actually fit and could walk around in chain mail).



                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 1:56 PM

                      Then, who would pay for the handouts for the liberal dem parasites?

                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 11:59 AM

                      We are not going anywhere liberal dem bloodsucker simply close off the borders of the 38 states that we control and leave you ersatz life forms to yourself and leave you to do what ever you like in tyour states.
                      Then we will go back to running a real country again.
                      When you parasites start starving, we will applaud.

                    • Dano2 October 4, 2015 at 12:12 PM

                      Hurry up and leave.



                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 1:52 PM

                      Is the inability to read and comprehend a tell tale sign of being a liar.
                      We aren’t going anywhere liberal dem bloodsucker, we are going to stay right here and watch you ;liberal parasites starve.

                    • Dano2 October 4, 2015 at 6:33 PM

                      That sounded smartie. When are you leaving for Somalia?



                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 7:44 PM

                      Not bad for the result of an incestuous one night stand between a liberal dem bloodsucker and a giant river leech.
                      C’mon scrub, kill yourself, think of your children.
                      Why hang that load on their shoulders for life?

                    • Dano2 October 4, 2015 at 7:49 PM

                      That’s a high-functioning deflection, surely. Not dim at all, nuh-uh.



                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 8:14 PM

                      read your post 4 time liberal dem bloodsucking cretin.
                      Please kill your self

                    • Dano2 October 4, 2015 at 8:48 PM

                      Please spare civil society and move to Utopian Galt-lubbin Somalia posthaste.



                    • Ian5 October 4, 2015 at 11:21 AM

                      What do you think would happen if you and those dangerous lib-dem bloodsuckers put their ideologies aside and focused on science and evidence?

                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 11:56 AM

                      Sorry liberal dem bloodsucker, when the peopel espousing, what you call science, quit trying to do what this group is doing and actually come out and debate the other side, we will talk about science.
                      To date not a single one of your scientists will debate the other side.t our ideologies aside, not possible.
                      Their whole focus is controlling our lives.
                      The liberal scum are attempting to destroy Christianity and disarm the citizenry.
                      While, I have littl in the way of religion, I will not find ,myself the last one standing, I will stand with them.
                      My weapons will not be take from regardless of the law.
                      It’s obvious to all conservatives, that we can no longer coexist with the liberal garbage and that we must physically separate ourselves from these ersatz life forms, it is very likely the only way to prevent civil war.

                    • Ian5 October 4, 2015 at 1:23 PM

                      Who is the “other side”? What scientific organizations are you talking about? Can you give me a list?

                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 1:55 PM

                      have no intention of playing the asinine liberal game with you, either all of the things that I have said have been published over and over.
                      It is readily available to anyone intelligent enough to google.

                    • Ian5 October 4, 2015 at 2:22 PM

                      No, there’s lots of noise out there on the Internet. Tell us what reputable scientific organizations that you hold up as credible and inform your opinions. Come on tell us.

                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 3:30 PM

                      Ye indeed liberal garbage and you didn’t see any of it, my I must have any eye like an eagle, I see them almost weekly.
                      Noaa comes to mind

                    • Ian5 October 4, 2015 at 9:04 PM

                      Almost weekly in those rubbish tea party sites no doubt. Good for you. Happy partitioning!

                    • Wesley342 October 4, 2015 at 11:10 PM

                      Lol, ah yes, the world famous key party sites.
                      You can go now, you have zero credibility.

                    • Ian5 October 4, 2015 at 11:52 PM

                      Happy partitioning! And enjoy your narrow, uninformed ideology!

                    • Wesley342 October 5, 2015 at 4:59 AM

                      Lol, a liberal dem bloodsucker, aka American Jihadist, speaking narrow uninformed ideology!!!!!

  4. iamangelfriend October 3, 2015 at 2:25 PM

    Firstly… can someone tell me why it is that we seldom hear (or think about) the FACT that we, as humans, breathe OUT CO2 which plants then convert back into O2 for us to breathe again (along with every animal on the planet)? So why not QUIT CUTTING DOWN THE RAIN FORESTS so McDonalds can sell us “almost fake food”? Personally, I think O2 smells a LOT better than most “Mickey D’s” food (and tastes better!). If “climate change” is indeed caused by man-made idiocy… getting rid of all the humans on the planet would solve THAT problem quite nicely… thank you very much! Unfortunately… there would be no one left to actually verify that worked!
    Secondly… if OZONE is such a bad thing as some people would have you believe… making lightning STOP doing what it does naturally would be a place to start to control ozone existence. BUT… considering that NATURE pretty much knows what it’s doing… good luck trying to regulate THAT! Doesn’t NATURE use ozone as an “air purifier”???? Inquiring minds want to know!
    Thirdly… if all mankind has done over the years to “clean up and protect” our precious atmosphere was doing SUCH a great job… would someone please enlighten me as to why a single volcano eruption can nullify ALL mankind has done to “clean things up”? Has ANYONE ever figured out how to STOP a volcano from doing what comes naturally? How’s THAT goin’ for ya????
    So… why not simply work with actual FACTS of any given situation? Sure I believe that “clean energy” is a good idea. So… please tell me WHY were Nikola Tesla’s “inventions/discoveries” purposefully buried for so many years? It seems to me that what he came up with in the way of utilizing NATURE’s versions of “clean energy” (not to mention pretty much ‘free’ power” should have/would have been some of the greatest boons to mankind’s welfare… not to mention Nature’s as well!!

    • Jack October 3, 2015 at 5:26 PM

      There is/are NO,NO,NO PROFITS IN”CLEAN ENERGY”(!!).,,for share-holders.

    • Abel October 3, 2015 at 8:54 PM

      Angelfriend – You mentioned a lot of good points that many times go unmentioned, and you’re pretty much on target. CO2 the plants need, and O2 is what we need, and Volcanos can cause serious atmospheric cooling. O2 for us to breathe comes more from algae than the rain forests, but I’m still for preserving the rain forests.

      There is an interesting book out by John L. Casey about climate changing (which is a natural phenomenon), titled “Dark Winter” that is quite well written if you haven’t read it.

      Rather than worrying about “Global Warming,” we had probably better be worrying about “Global Cooling,” since the sunspot activity is diminishing, which is cyclic, and indicates that the sun is cooling somewhat, and as the sun cools, or hibernates, the earth will also cool; this may cause some shrinkage and promote more volcanic activity, thus we are likely heading into a minimum that could, and probably will, cause another ice age similar to the one around 1850, or maybe colder and longer. Just thought you might be interested in the book. Have a nice day.

  5. JIMBO October 3, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    If anyone should be prosecuted under the RICO act it should be Obama, Lynch and all those that are making the big tax payer money because of there lies and deceit. They seem to have even convinced the pope of there false reports and computer models.

    • Jack October 3, 2015 at 5:18 PM

      “SO”,that is how the pope,became the expert”INRE”global climate matters,,what is his next move,to become the sole controller of world wide population??

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