Did Obama science advisor Dr. John Holdren actually call for the American government to “de-develop” the U.S. and “reduce” its population?
Yes, he did.
Recalling Holdren’s radical prescription for America is particularly timely with EPA preparing for the Monday rollout of one of the most destructive and useless government policies in American history.
EPA is preparing to severely limit CO2 emissions from existing electrical power plants (the ones already paid for and operating).
President Obama’s latest energy policy will increase electricity prices and whack 
business and family budgets right on their bottom lines. It will have no meaningful impact on the climate. It will certainly be cause for joy for European businesses whose government’s have already raised electricity prices too high to be competitive.
It should also cause smiles in the capitals of developing nations like China and India where they are ramping up fossil fuel use as quickly as their means allow, and are more than delighted to produce the goods t
hat the U.S. and Europe will no longer be able to afford to.
The rise of such ideological driven, destructive policies certainly seem to be in line with Holdren’s call for “a much more equitable distribution of wealth than in the present one,” writing that, “redistribution of wealth both within and among nations is absolutely essential, if a decent life is to be provided for every human being.”
It is also consistent with the calls for central planning, deindustrialization and redistribution made in the name of “sustainability” by the acolytes of UN Agenda 21 and the UN climate change agenda that goes with it.
Holdren has tried to deny what he wrote, which has caused controversy and an ongoing war of words between the left-wing Media Matters and Glenn Beck’s The Blaze. They call it a myth, but reading Holdren’s words in their full context, what does Media Matters think Holdren’s call for government to reduce population and de-develop means? It certainly smacks more of authoritarianism than voluntarism.
Do John Holdren and Barack Obama actually believe that other nations will throttle their economies to fall in line with the American example? If the lessons of the past are too remote for them to absorb, they can look to recent history. Everywhere that the Obama foreign and military policies have adopted weakness, other nations have seen not inspiration, but opportunity. If you don’t want to take our word for it, in today’s information age the people of Ukraine, Afghanistan and Syria are but a phone call or email way.
A U.S. energy policy designed to replace efficient, affordable, abundant electricity with expensive alternatives incapable of providing for the needs of the American economy is foolish and self-destructive. It defies any rational cost-benefit analysis even when factored through the climate computer models which the administration wants us to accept on faith, and which so far have proved inaccurate.
This is not rational science or economics in the true sense of those terms.
Yesterday, Obama Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki and Press Secretary Jay Carney announced their resignations. Science advisor Holdren should do the nation a favor and join them.
Read what John Holdren recommended as the “responsible” course for America’s future in his own words.
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Human Ecology: Problems & Solutions
Paul Ehrlich, Anne Ehrlich, &
 John Holdren
Chapter TEN
Synthesis and Recommendations
[Page 277]
Summary
To recapitulate, we would outline the present world situation as follows:
1.     Considering present technology and patterns of human behavior, our planet is grossly overpopulated. Between 2 and 3 billion people are not being properly cared for now. Under such circumstances, the contention of some that many more people can be easily and properly cared for in the near future is preposterous. When every human being has abundant and varied food, adeÂquate clothing and shelter, first-rate medical care, ample educational opporÂtunity, and freedom from war and tyranny, then perhaps consideration of whether more people can be given first-class accommodation on Spaceship Earth will be appropriate.
2.     The large absolute number of people and the rate of population growth are themselves major hindrances to fulfilling the above-named needs of all of mankind.
3.     The limits of human capability to produce food by conventional means have very nearly been reached. Problems of supply and distribution already have resulted in roughly half of humanity being undernourished or malnourÂished. As many as 10-20 million people are starving to death annually.
4.     Attempts to increase food production further will tend to accelerate the deterioration of our environment, which in turn may eventually reduce the capacity of the Earth to produce food. It is not clear whether environmental decay has now gone so far as to be essentially irreversible; it is possible that [Page 278] the capacity of the planet to support human beings has been permanently imÂpaired.
5.     There is good reason to believe that population growth increases the probability of a lethal worldwide plague and of a thermonuclear war. Either could provide a catastrophic “death-rate solution” to the population problem; each is potentially capable of destroying civilization and even of driving Homo sapiens to extinction.
6.     Perhaps more likely than extinction is the possibility that man will surÂvive only to endure an existence barely recognizable as human-malnourished, beset by chronic disease, physically and emotionally impoverished, surÂrounded by the devastation wrought by an industrial civilization that could not cope with the results of its own biological and social folly.
7.       There are no simple answers to these threats, no technological panaceas for the complex of problems comprising the population-food-environment crisis. Of course, technology, properly applied in such areas as pollution abateÂment, communications, and fertility control, can provide valuable assistance. But the essential solutions entail dramatic and rapid changes in human attiÂtudes, especially those relating to reproductive behavior, economic growth, technology, the environment, and resolution of conflicts.
Recommendations: A Positive Program
Although our conclusions are necessarily rather pessimistic, we wish to emÂphasize our belief that the problems can be solved. Whether they will be solved is another question. A general course of action that we feel will have some chance of ameliorating the results of the current crisis is outlined below. Many of the suggestions will seem “unrealistic,” and indeed that is how we view them. But the world has been allowed to run downhill for so long that only idealistic and very far-reaching programs offer any hope for the future.
1Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Population control is absolutely essential if the problems now facing mankind are to be solved. It is not, however, a panacea. If population growth were halted immediately, virtually all other human problems–poverty, racial tensions, urban blight, environmental decay, warfare-would remain. On the other hand, direct attacks on these problems will ultimately fail if the human population continues to grow. The situation is best summarized in the stateÂment: “Whatever your cause, it’s a lost cause without population control.”
2Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Political pressure must be applied immediately to induce the United States government to assume its responsibility to halt the growth of the AmeriÂcan population. Once growth is halted, the government should undertake to influence the birth rate so that the population is reduced to an optimum size and maintained there. It is essential that a grassroots political movement be [Page 279]generated to convince our legislators and the executive branch of the governÂment that they must act promptly. The program should be based on what poliÂticians understand best-votes. Presidents, Congressmen, Senators, and other elected officials who do not deal effectively with the crisis must be defeated at the polls, and more intelligent and responsible candidates must be elected. It is unfortunate that at the time of the greatest crisis the United States and the world have ever faced, many Americans, especially the young, have given up hope that the government can be modernized and changed in direction through the functioning of the elective process. Their despair may have some foundaÂtion, but we see no choice but to launch a prolonged and determined attempt to wrest control of the political system from the special interests which now run it and to turn it over to the people.
3Â Â Â Â Â Â Â A massive campaign must be launched to restore a high-quality environÂment in North America and to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system (especially patterns of consumption) into line with the realities of ecology and the global resource situation. Resources and energy must be diverted from frivolous and wasteful uses in overdevelÂoped countries to filling the genuine needs of underdeveloped countries. This effort must be largely political, especially with regard to our overexploitation of world resources, but the campaign should be strongly supplemented by legal and boycott action against polluters and others whose activities damage the environment. The need for de–development presents our economists with a major challenge. They must design a stable, low–consumption economy in which there is a much more equitable distribution of wealth than in the present one. Redistribution of wealth both within and among nations is absolutely essential, if a decent life is to be provided for every human being.
4Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Once the United States has clearly started on the path of cleaning up its own mess, it can then turn its attention to the problems of the de–development of the other DCs, population control, and ecologically feasible development of the UDCs. It must use every peaceful means at its disposal to persuade the Soviet Union and other DCs to join the effort, in line with the general proposals of Lord Snow and Academician Sakharov.
5Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Perhaps the major necessary ingredient that has been missing from a solution to the problems of both the United States and the rest of the world is a goal, a vision of the kind of Spaceship Earth that ought to be and the kind of crew that should man her. Society has always had its visionaries who talked of love, beauty, peace, and plenty. But somehow the “practical” men have always been there to praise smog as a sign of progress, to preach “just” wars, and to restrict love while giving hate free rein. It must be one of the greatest ironies of the history of the human species that the only salvation for the practical men now lies in what they think of as the dreams of idealists. The question now is: can the self-proclaimed “realists” be persuaded to face reality in time?
Maybe we should start the reduction with him.
YES! I think he should put his money where his mouth is and jump off a bridge.
Every time you think that we have hit a pinnacle of stupidity and we can perhaps look forward to some status quo intelligence, Obama jams it to everyone with something even more stupid. And now here is a science advisor who believes all the lies of the Club of Rome of the Sixties. What assess!!
I almost got kicked out of college for defacing a “Limits To Growth” poster.
Just how in the hell can they de-populate the U.S. when they are allowing more illegal aliens in than they are killing?
That’s exactly what I asked?
They can find a way to kill us faster. Slow kill is too slow.
That’s because it’s not about depopulation, it’s about depopulating a specific demographic, WHITES.
John Holden with that Dr. in front of your name makes you no smarter than someone first born. In fact a newborn babies intelligence has no boundaries. I would ask that you resign your position willingly rather than have your ass dragged behind a 4 wheeler out in the desert. You have a great fit with Obama and his mentally retarded staff of minions.
Most of us older people know the value of hands on experience, running a business, being involved with the production of energy, producing products in demand. John Holdren appears to be the typical academic type who never left the classroom, and so many of us know how dangerous these types can be. Holdren typical of the people Obama surrounds himself with. Read this WIKI page, Holdren just another fairy dust snorting green pea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren
I read the wiki page and see that this man was also Clinton’s science advisor. This means he would have been the one to advise the President to release a biological agent on the US Mexican border so the government could track how the virus moved and assess our readiness for a biological weapons attack. IMO he’s an elitist ass.
Mary, I know it’s been two years since you wrote that paragraph, but in case you see this…can you elaborate a bit on the biological you mention? A link would be wonderful; I’ve always been fascinated by virology and tracking the pathology of diseases. This and similar scenarios has happened several times in the past, and sounds exactly like something the government would do…thank you!
I will try to find the name of the well researched book by Tom ? (a San Francisco based author) for you. I lent it to a friend who lent it to a friend….so it is no longer in my library.
LOL, I know exactly what you mean, I’ve had a few books that always had a hard time making it back to my bookshelves.
This is SO frustrating! The book was so interesting! I had never heard of Wouter Basson or Dr. Larry Ford and was unaware of Plum Island and the research/mishaps there until having read about them there. The Clinton release was a readiness test. ARGH!!!
Well, I’ll google it and see if I can find a copy, the history of the establishment of Plum Island, and WHO founded it, is worth anyone’s time to research, especially if you like horror stories based on real events. Were you aware that there was an attempt to relocate Plum Island (the facility) to a spot in the middle of the midwest? I’m not sure what the outcome was, haven’t heard any updates on it. However, this move on the part of our “leaders” convinced me that high intelligence is NOT a measure of common sense–perhaps it should be considered a “marker” of possible insanity. At any rate, shoot me a message if you think of it, or hear any news on it, I’m always interested in subjects like this, and I’ll do the same for you. Cheers!
I recall reading this transcript while looking into the topic of bioweapons: http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/04/25/biowarfare-terror-weapons-and-the-us/
Oh thank you, Mary, I do appreciate that!
It’s little wonder why they hate Catholicism.
We need to get of those wealthy fat cats fast before it’s to late.George Soros David Rockafeller and Warren Buffett as well as all the wealthy company CEOs.
A rational reader will immediately note that the author makes frequent jumps to conclusions – seemingly based on his own gut feelings. These early conclusions are thereafter the basis of his whole thesis. It is illogical to come to a final position based only upon ones gut feelings, and expect folks to accept them as scientific fact.
My “gut feelings” have given me an entirely different conclusion, as I have faith in humanity, as well as in my Creator. So keep your cotton picking hands out of my life!
Perhaps all the liberals and progressives should volunteer to be euthanized for the betterment of the future of the race. That’ll certainly reduce the population of most of our urban areas, and California might just disappear.
Paul Ehrlich?!?! He was discredited 40 Years ago by Julian Simon!! Of Course, obamma picks his numbskull Co – author as “science” ‘advisor’! WTF?…over?
in order to solve poverty you have to figure out what are the causes of poverty? what got the usa our of poverty? wasn’t it wealth production? increased consumption, then what happened the rivers and lakes and air got really polluted and people started to complain, then what happened pollutors had to clean up their act (this was before gov interventions) they had to put scrubbers on power plants, use cleaner coal, they had to properly dispose of waste, (otherwise they lose their customers or get sued by land owners in the area whose property was being damaged or devalued due to the pollution) they had to stop dumping their waste into the rivers and treat it first, they had to set up properly maintained dump sites. but something funny happened (by the way poverty rates were dropping 1 percent a year then too before gov intervention) some rivers burst into flames, (like the one here in ohio) which cleaned up the river I guess they must have been dumping kerosene or oil into the water, now by pressure by land owners and property owners (and you own your life which is property)due to lawsuits for compensation for said damage companies were forced by economics to clean up their act. so I guess some got tired of it and just got government involved and passed the liabilities of environmental damage onto the public aka taxpayers. so now they get to keep the profits and we get all the bills. how do you like them apples? so now poverty is on the increase, hard to tell with welfare but compare the amount of taxes people are paying and you can see why poverty is on the increase. in other countries the cause of poverty is the same, lack of property rights and their protections, corp can come in and do what they want and shift liabilities onto the people who live there who have no rights. creeps, so population numbers are not the problem, the climate is not the problem, natural vairations or ability ot produce enough is not the problem the problem is greed by those at the top, the desire for power monopolies on goods and services. lack of property rights and their protections. hence no balance between the wealthy and workers and poor.
Here’s something these Global Warming Intellectual MOONBATS CAUSED ALL OF OUR CLIMATE DAMAGE SO FAR !!!! Take a Look !!!
We the people had nothing to do with phony global warming/climate change. The cooling was caused by two volcanoes in Greenland just like it was in 1918′ record cold spell. And it will happen again in another 86 years. We had nothing to do with it . We The People of the United States have always cleaned up our own messes. We, with Nikola Tesla’s invention of the ignition system with a spark plug and Henry FORD’s invention of the automobile cleaned up John D. Rockefeller’s environmental disaster of pouring Gasoline on the ground at all his refineries as we burned it in that automobile to keep it out of our groundwater. Since that time 1903 our climate has been getting colder. At that time Mrs. Deland and her Son’s fruit industry was all over South louisiana, Alabama, and Georgia all across the southern States westward to mexico, and it stretched all the way to the southern tip of Florida. After the introduction of fossil fuel this industry has moved farther south every year since 1903 because of the climate getting colder. It is no longer frost proof in Frostproof South Florida. It is impossible for God’s creation the fruit tree to lie.
Stop stalling on Keystone pipeline! Mr. President Mr. Secretary of state John Kerry
And here’s another one. These people Intellectual MOONBATS CAUSE CLIMATE DAMAGE !!!! Their IDIOTS ALL OF THEM !!!! CO2 Has nothing to do with it But you can bet your bippy leaded fuel helped poison our children of the 50’s.
These are the same people of last generation under FDR with the same stupid ideas that will never work. The oil lobby put a stop to the Pogue Carburetor 200 MPG. And the oil lobby of today love this BS with this Electric Car again it will only reaffirm that cars need to be run of gas. The Carbon footprint, weather that means anything or not, for the cleanup of this cars battery’s in a junkyard will be HUGE.
This was done to Stop Mr. Pogue’s 200 MPG carburetor in 1935. 7 inventors killed by their inventions. Thomas Midgley Jr. was a highly decorated chemist best known for his work with “no-knock” or leaded gasoline and the greenhouse gas Freon. Leaded fuel was needed by our State Department and Ford under FDR to stop this carburetor that was sold in every parts house retrofit to every car of the time. Leaded fuel made this 200 MPG carburetor worthless. But it was needed by General Patton in north Africa on the Sherman Tank where it got a unheard of 23 MPG with the two 1200 CID engines. After it was used there it was taken off and demolished .
http://truedemocracyparty.net/new-energy-sources-and-inventions/200-mpg-pogue-carburetor/
People we can use that carburator again because leaded fuel was stopped for making our Progressive children STUPID. Wow man thats the same way Rome fell Baths with Lead pipe making Roman leadership STUPID. Looks like the Centurion Plumer did it to us again.
And here is YET another example of MOONBATISM !!
Lets Take the Catalytic Converter for Instance. 15% of its emissions are the Element Hydrogen. Now just where is the Most Volatile (explosive) of all elements going to go. Of Course This Environmental wacko so called California Smog preventer will saturate our Polar regions with Hydrogen. Come to find out the Smog wasn’t coming from burning Fossil Fuel in the first place. It came from CFC’s that the Forest around San Francisco put out Because the Catalytic converter had no effect on the Smog. So just what was done when the real culprit was found nothing of course by tree huggers because it was the tree all along. So was the Catalytic Converter stopped after the real cause was found? NO it was expanded to the entire world. That 15% will keep building up and one little match will set it off. Earths atmosphere leaves in a fire. Thats Kinda what God said would happen in the first place with fire the next time and who caused it Environmental Wackos.
Energy Secretary Moniz needs to be included with this discussion. He wants to reduce energy consumption to the levels after the Civil War.
Thank you Jimmy And these Global Warmers are your garden variety Democrat, Communist, Liberal Intellectual MOONBATS !!!!!!!! Global Warming at this point, after Snow on the ground that stayed there in Judea of Israel for a Global Warming conference scheduled three years ago,and three ships caught in the ice during an antarctic summer is a backer actable mental disorder. A Left brain logic wiping syndrome and as that has nothing to do with the word science. I am convinced these MOONBATS barely have the Motor skills to walk. I have been a Mechanic all my life and these people COULD NOT FIX THEIR WAY OUT OF A WET PAPER BAG !!!!
Geological scientist on CFACT this sight have informed us that the 400 PPM CO2 now was topped by the last ice age by 1200 PPM CO2. Co2 has NOTHING TO DO WITH GLOBAL WARMING. AND WE THE PEOPLE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH EITHER !!!!!!
What a naive fool. ‘Educated Idiots’, as my ex-father-in-law would say.
Why don’t we de-populate by shutting our freaking boarders and quit dropping off illegals by the bus load?
because what’s ommitted is that they want to depopulate the White race, not their countries, just the people. it’s called GENOCIDE, and it’s happening right now in every european country.
That’s part of the de-industrialization of the country. We are shipping our high paying jobs overseas and bringing in unskilled, low wage earning people. No other country brings in the low wage, unskilled, non-beneficial labor that we do. Bringing these people in doesn’t improve the economy as many believe. it destroys it. They’re using illegals to destroy wages and to overwhelm the system via the Cloward-Piven strategy. Cloward-Piven theory is where they seek to overload the system with financial obligations which collapses the economy. Once the economy has collapsed, they will blame capitalism and usher in a collectivist system which they have more control over.
You cannot have prosperity without freedom and you cannot have freedom without prosperity. In other words, the government cannot control the American people if the people have a pocket full of money. Dependence on government is bondage.
Bingo , exactly ! Cloward and Piven strategy on hyper-drive. It is being used to overwhelm and collapse the economy so that Capitalism can be blamed as the cause. The unknowing masses will buy it hook…line and sinker.
100 percent correct
Fat chance of that working out If they’d quit trying to fix things everything would run a hell of a lot better. The only problems I see are all created by the government and it’s cronies.
The Barry Hussein Obama Soetoro gang is pure Communist; very dangerous for my American friends who freed me from the nazi´s and kept me free from the Soviets.
Get rid of that gang!
Sorry to say that the neo-Malthusians have mathematics of growth on their side, we, on the other hand, have substitutability (in the economics sense) and innovation. We are engaged in a desperate race between the two. On top of that, we also have do deal with the stupid planet wanting to get back to normal (as in Jurassic, Triassic or hotter (Permian)). It’s going to be a rocky ride and we should expect both political parties to play the short term for all it is worth.
There was never equal distribution of wealth or resources and such a thing will never exist under a government of loving, caring, ideologically driven people because the absolute control needed to maintain the facade requires top-down, lock-step, harsh and totalitarian dictatorship. The problem with starvation worldwide should first be addressed with the way prices of seeds, crops, commodities, etc. etc. etc. are manipulated by the stock markets. Yes, the stock markets. This is the regulation arm of our government, not the legislative branch. We all view Hitlers third reich as a quest to eliminate Jews from the planet. Mein Kampf should be required reading as it outlines Hitlers quest for “utopia”; a world where all was equal, no one was impoverished, government was good….. This manifesto is nothing new but is a re-write of a recipe that will bring about the death of millions, suffering of millions more, and warfare.
And yet Holdren and Erlich are jewish, and have put in writing their desire to cull the population. I fail to see much light between the terms “chosen people” and “master race”, esp. when the actions and motivations are so similar. The Talmud makes Hitler look like an amateur.
Total and complete whack job!!!!!
And thus begins the revolution. MOLON LABE!
Holdren is a jackass fool! He is no better than a traitor!
Is there anyway to stop this nonsense?
This dangerous nut job was one of Obama’s most trusted advisers….Now why would Obama have someone close to him who thought this way if he didn’t have the same thoughts as well?
How appropriate that Holdren would co-author a book with the wacko Ehrlich, who predicted that global population catastrophe would happen years ago. Ehrlich’s training was in butterflies, yet he parlayed that degree into predictions of human overpopulation. This is a not uncommon dynamic among so-called “intellectuals.” They get a degree in one field and then presume to be experts in any field in which they choose to pontificate. Paul Krugman (with emphasis on the KRUG) offers advice on global warming and climate from his perch as a so-called “economist.” My response to these overpopulation nitwits has always been: “You first.”
Who will decide who is worth of living and who is not. It’s sad but is true – now they are poisoning US, form the air, water, GMO and… massmedia… butts, tits, naked bodies, perversions… so they don’t have to look around and ask themself what’s wrong. Nothing is wrong, just eat your shit, watch idiotic shows and die of cancer or obesity.
“They Live!” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcD1h9DYitg
You know what? There is only one correction for this type of mental spin…a helical groove…
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com
Because, the ones they want to ‘reduce’ are NOT the parasites, rather, they are the liberators…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQvsf2MUKRQ
Holdren lives in Falmouth, Massachusetts, with his wife, biologist Cheryl E. Holdren, with whom he has two children and five grandchildren.
Ha. I guess he changed his mind about the population thing.
I find it desperately funny (and ironic) that these zero-population fools are always ONLY talking about depopulating western civilized countries. On average, western civilization has a birth rate of 1.3 per couple. That’s not enough to sustain our cultures. While Muslim birthrates average 4.375 (or higher). Why are these “experts” not urging the forced sterilization and abortion of Muslim children instead of civilized westerners?
What’s even more puzzling (and scary) is apparently, these idiots think they can be an accepted part of the new, Muslim global hegemony that will inevitably – just based on the demographics – take over.
What is going on ’round heyah?
yes, John, please step to the head of the line. those who advocate a return to the pristine imagined nirvana should go and live in the woods for a while without fossil fuels. stay there for a month or two and then come back and tell me how you fared. the hypocrisy and lack of critical thinking is stunning. by the way, this means that all the major cities of the world should be returned to nature. imagine
Pay me now; or pay me later. Had only we listened to Holdren and his colleagues in the 1970s we wouldn’t be in the fix we are currently in today. There was a sliver of time there when visionaries in the climate world had the science and the momentum to start driving toward a low-carbon future that would sustain our lives and livelihoods. But now our planet and our politics are so addicted to oil (GW Bush’s phrase) that we are destroying our ecosystem that sustains us (according to Exxon researchers.)