Have you ever met one of those “climate change deniers” that we constantly hear about?
That 3% of scientists who don’t care about our CO2-belching smokestacks and SUV’s causing polar bears to hyperventilate . . . or accept human blame for those recent first time ever extreme weather and coastal flooding events?
I’m referring, of course, to the “crippling consequences” of climate change that former Secretary of State John Kerry warned graduating students at Boston College about in 2014, whereby “97% of the world’s scientists tell us this is urgent.”
Yet just in case you’re wondering where that 97% consensus claim come from, here’s a clue. It’s certainly not based upon any credible scientific studies or surveys.
For starters, everyone I know agrees that the Earth has been slowly warming in fits-and-starts over the past 12,000 years or so since the end of the last major ice age, and that humans have likely had some (as yet unmeasured) recent influences.
On the other hand, absolutely no one knows how much influence we actually have had, will have, or might conceivably manage to have in order to make any appreciable difference.
In reality, the scientific consensus meme is based entirely upon half-baked surveys and cherry-picked publication counting exercises which are constantly and loudly trumpeted in political and punditry media echo chambers.
Much of the early notoriety for that alleged consensus originated with a 2004 non-peer-reviewed essay written by non-scientist Harvard historian Naomi Oreskes published in Science magazine.
Oreskes superficially reviewed abstracts of 928 papers published between 1993 and 2003, of which she reported that 75% supported the view that human activities are responsible for most of the observed warming over the previous 50 years as purported by the UN’s reliably alarmist Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
Followup fact checking of Oreskes’ abstract-counting review conducted in 2014 by a group of retired Canadian Earth and atmospheric scientists called Friends of Science found only 1.2% that explicitly agreed with the IPCC’s declaration. In addition, Oreskes’ survey conclusions didn’t distinguish between articles that may have indicated serious risks and consequences versus those which acknowledged only small and inconsequential influences.
The much-ballyhooed “97%” statistical claim originated as the result of a two-minute on-line survey conducted by Maggie Kendall Zimmerman, then a University of Illinois graduate student, and her master’s thesis advisor Peter Doran which asked two questions:
- “When compared with pre-1800s levels, do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?”
- “Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?”
It’s surprising that those responses weren’t unanimous. Everyone I personally know would agree that temperatures have indeed risen since the “little ice age” ended in the mid-1800s.
And after all, the survey didn’t ask whether any human influence was believed to be significant enough to constitute serious problems.
Even more remarkable, that “97% of all climate scientists” claim was based upon a grand total of only 79 respondents out of the 3,146 Earth scientists who responded out of 10,257 contacted — of whom only 5% of those respondents self-identified as climate scientists.
Incidentally, that pseudo-survey intentionally excluded other climate-related disciplines such as solar scientists, astrophysicists, meteorologists, and astronomers who are generally most familiar with natural causes for changes.
Still another laughably precise 97% statistical agreement was premised upon a review of research paper abstracts published from 1991 to 2011 conducted by Australian climate alarm blogger John Cook and friends. As reported in Environmental Research Letters, 97% of those abstracts “explicitly or implicitly” suggested that some warming can be attributed to human activity.
Cook’s survey methodology was roundly challenged in an August 2013 report published in Science and Education co-authored by former University of Delaware Center for Climatic Research Director David Legates.
Upon reviewing those same materials, Professor Legates and three colleagues found that “only 41 papers —0.3% of all 11,944 abstracts or 1.0% of the 4,014 expressing any opinion, and not 97.1% – had been found to endorse” the claim that human activity is causing most of the current warming. In fact some of those so-called “endorsing” authors subsequently protested that Cook misrepresented their findings.
As reported in The Guardian (2013), Richard Tol, a lead author of IPCC reports, said of Cook’s report, “the sample of papers does not represent the literature. That is, the main finding of the paper is incorrect, invalid and unrepresentative.”
So if you think what you’re hearing in the media about manmade climate change is scary, remember something worse. Consider how frightening it is that such overheated bunk has served to drive costly and unwarranted environmental and energy regulatory policies with far more serious and less imaginary consequences.
Yet, there are AGW proponents who come here claiming the 97% figure is accurate. Little do they know.
You can’t refute the figure.
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D
I don’t have to. Others have already done that. You don’t believe it? Too bad. That is your problem. Numerous, well educated people have laughed at the 97% assertion. But you already know that and refuse to see it. Again, your problem, not mine.
Your claim, your burden of proof.
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As I said, it is out there. There are plenty of sites that speak of it. But you consider them all “dis-information”. You have a closed mind on the subject. Further dialogue with you is useless. You are dismissed. LOL
Still not meeting your burden of proof.
It almost looks as if you made it up, and are deflecting to avoid having to produce evidence.
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D
http://notrickszone.com/2016/07/03/already-240-published-papers-in-2016-alone-show-agw-consensus-is-a-fantasy/#sthash.W22cfR7S.dpbs
That’s a known disinformation site. Is the best you can do, using a disinformer who has been caught in blatant lies several times, and thus lost all credibility?
Sad!
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D
Surprise! Surprise! How did I know that all you could do is call the link a “dis-information” site. You are the sad one and are now dismissed for good. Buh-bye.
I’d run away too if I were you – caught using disinformation to support an assertion. Good call.
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D
Here are 3 more dis-information sites for you to peruse… desmogblog, desmogCanada and desmogUK….. all have the same executive steering the ship…… all funded by one of George Soro’s Open society foundations.
Give them to Dano. He’ll enjoy them.
Excellent….. but I am not sure he does much reading or is able.
You internet alias “Dano” is all over the internet….Must take a vast amount of your time to become omnipresent…… Sure hope you are getting paid for your hard work……;-)
No, yours is the controversial theory it’s for you to explain how it works, so far you don’t seem to know!
The dummy thinks that not responding to him is “running away”. That is how liberals ‘think’.
You ran away from your fib. Everyone can see it.
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D
You must be desperate for conversation. I didn’t lie and you are a fraud. Everyone can see THAT.
Like Brin has said, show us how CO2 drives climate change. You can’t. It is that simple. You do nothing but troll here.
I showed you. You are unable to grasp it.
Also, not backing a claim is a sign someone fibbed.
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No you didn’t. You just think you did. The irony of your statement is that YOU can’t grasp how complex climate dynamics is and that no one has figured out what impact, if any, CO2 actually has on the climate. That is a FACT you just can’t accept. Your mind isn’t broad enough to grasp it. LOL
Unable to grasp it, aye.
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That’s right. You can’t grasp it. Case closed.
“Also, not backing a claim is a sign someone fibbed.”
Hmmmmm……… How ironic!
YOU have made the claim you are published and have several degrees. You have yet to show any proof for that. By your logic, you fibbed. How rich!!
hahahahahahahahahahaha
That is because – as you were told but lack integrity to share – that I’m remaining anonymous.
And you still aren’t backing your claim.
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D
By your definition, you are fibbing. Stop trying to deflect. You look pitiful.
Immortal continuing to lack integrity…aye.
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D
I’m not the one making a claim of being published with several degrees. You are. You can’t substantiate that claim and by your own definition, you are fibbing. It is YOU who lack integrity. The world sees it.
Dim flail. I choose to remain anonymous instead. Everyone can read my comments and see I’m educated in the sciences and rhetoric.
Some commenters, OTOH, are clearly not even high school graduates. As evidenced by dimbulbery, prancing and weak ploys.
Oh, and never once ever able to substantiate their ludicrous claims. Not once.
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Such a pathetic reply. Everyone can see you are a charlatan masquerading as someone who claims being educated when you clearly aren’t. You are a fraud.
You forgot the other name you lubs to ululate when triggered.
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D
“You forgot the other name you lubs to ululate when triggered.”
you lubs to ?????
That makes zero sense. But it is you after all. Still trying to appear witty and failing as usual.
Your childish attempts at humor belie any education you claim.
Oh, and never once ever able to substantiate their ludicrous claims. Not once. Ever.
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D
Still can’t substantiate you are published with several degrees, I see.
hahahahahahahaha
I bookmarked this example your lack of integrity for later.
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D
I am glad you did!!! The world can see that you refuse to substantiate your claims of being published with multiple degrees. By your own definition, you are fibbing. Claiming to stay anonymous doesn’t cut it. You made the claim. Live up to it, hypocrite.
Do you really claim to hold a degree? Should be easy to chek which uni? or was it bought on line?
He has made the claim of several degrees! AND! To having been published multiple times. He can substantiate none of it, of course..
Dano2….. constantly attacking others all over the internet without a single iota of facts or data to back yourself up….. always playing the offensive role with no defence………what a complete and total POS you are….
I like how you typed that in a thread where I included 10+ figures backing myself up.
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D
All disinformation. See we can do that too.
But empty assertions aren’t the same. You can’t show journal papers are Disinformation.
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D
Sure I can. I can call them disinformation. Why? That is all you have. LOL
If you could show it, you would have done so already, lording it over me and prancing all over the place declaring victory and superiority and paying for an advert saying such.
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D
Sounds like you are describing yourself.
Nov 28, 2016 – Weather is NOT Climate!
No, weather is NOT climate…even when it’s warm outside. But in case there’s a climate cultist in your life that insists otherwise, here are some facts about global warming and vaguely-defined “extreme” weather that you can use to talk some sense into them.
https://youtu.be/sT4133vfTmk
The Sun: Earth’s Primary Energy Source
The Sun is the primary source of energy for Earth’s climate system is the first of seven Essential Principles of Climate Sciences. Principle 1 sets the stage for understanding Earth’s climate system and energy balance. The Sun warms the planet, drives the hydrologic cycle, and makes life on Earth possible. The amount of sunlight received on Earth’s surface is affected by the reflectivity of the surface, the angle of the Sun, the output of the Sun, and the cyclic variations of the Earth’s orbit around the Sun.
http://beyondweather.ehe.osu.edu/issue/the-sun-and-earths-climate/the-sun-earths-primary-energy-source
Looks like someone else needs to be arrested . .from last week. Her first statement needs a qualifier (some, much, a little, most?), but the rest, I’d propose is pretty much the consensus view. The media needs to discover this:
She is refuted by the science.
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D
On which point?
Headlines that claim storms, droughts, floods, and temperature
variability are increasing, are not based on normal scientific
standards.
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D
Would seem that AR5 and Pres Obama’s last National Climate Assessment would support her view.
You can’t quote from AR5 nor the NCA to show that is true.
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D
Sure I could. All ready to go. But now since I’ve glanced at your ridiculous and childish remarks, I bid you farewell.
I’d run away too if I were called out on my bluff like you were. Good call.
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Your nonsense caught you out again Dano, why not surprise us all with your explanation of how Co2 causes warming?
Can someone please explain why the word “hiatus” appears over 30 times in IPCC AR5? discovered using acrobat reader word search function.
The topic is severe weather. Try to keep up.
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D
Nice deflection. Everyone knows that the “hiatus” refers to the temperature pause. Try better next time.
Nice poor English comp skills.
Embarrassing!
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D
You?
Hilarious error:
everyone I know agrees that the Earth has been slowly warming in fits-and-starts over the past 12,000 years or so since the end of the last major ice age
Larry Bell made us LOLz!
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https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e726065a42e8488e6230ead75fda285469a0039d33d5fcac7d38d8876f14b460.jpg
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/551d72fb75318499b6bc1f9c746d2dd1eb41547be6d4a21a1c143eff5d928d9a.gif
Where can I find this graph you are referencing?
I included the DOIs on the graphs.
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D
Another hilarious error:
absolutely no one knows how much influence we actually have had
Larry Bell made us LOLz!
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D
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0374e4f0121749c2bf72bab4595951dc3390874aa7d66969b7e847013041fe3c.png
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0c5a230fd197b64a87a7526ad4bb829a4f23931c607096517e2af5bc88d80776.png
So to present your case you pull of a diagram……OK…..Now please provide the diagram source so that we can be sure it is from a highly reliable source….. not from alternative fact sites.
The top chart is labeled. The second one is also from AR4, Box 10.2 Figure 1 – (Chapter 10).
HTH
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D
Another hilarious error:
written by non-scientist Harvard historian Naomi Oreskes published in Science magazine.
Larry Bell made us LOLz!
Not only did the paper pass peer-review (and prolifically cited), but Oreskes was educated with a B.Sc. in Mining,Geology and Ph.D. in Geological Research and History of Science. Transparent fibbing.
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Another hilarious error:
Followup fact checking of Oreskes’ abstract-counting review conducted in 2014 by a group of retired Canadian Earth and atmospheric scientists called Friends of Science
Larry Bell made us LOLz! Not only is FoS a fossil front group, but that wasn’t published, so worthless.
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D
Another hilarious error:
based upon a grand total of only 79 respondents out of the 3,146 Earth scientists who responded out of 10,257 contacted — of whom only 5% of those respondents self-identified as climate scientists.
Larry Bell made us LOLz! This dishonest mischaracterization was refuted a thousand times, years ago.
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Another hilarious error:
Richard Tol, a lead author of IPCC reports, said of Cook’s report, “the sample of papers does not represent the literature
Larry Bell made us LOLz!
Tol finds nearly the same % in later work! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLz!
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