“Snowmageddon” threatens Massachusetts global warming forum

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(Photo – Stephen Orsillo) The record-shattering snow that has shut down Boston’s public transit system threatens to white out a global warming forum organized by Massachusetts Senate President Stanley Rosenberg (D, Amherst).

Rosenberg scheduled the forum for 1 PM Tuesday beneath the golden dome of the Massachusetts State House in Boston.

Rosenberg said the state has already seen how climate change is manifesting itself in the state with stronger storms, extreme temperatures, and a changing environment.’

Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker has declared a state of snow emergency and has shut down “non-essential” state services and buildings in four counties on Tuesday, including Suffolk County where the Boston global warming forum is scheduled to take place.

Inconveniently, Boston is in the midst of its snowiest winter in a century.  The city hit 73″ inches of snow on Monday placing this year on the top ten list for snowiest winters on record, surpassing the 72.9″ recorded during the winter of 1903-1904.

WCVB TV reports that, ‘Boston also set a record with the most snow in 30 days with 60.8 inches.’

The previous record was 58.8 inches that fell before, during and after the Blizzard of 1978. However, this time, that record was set in 17 days, not 30.’

No word yet on whether the “environmental activists, local health

Massachusetts Senate President Stanley Rosenberg

Massachusetts Senate President Stanley Rosenberg

officials and public planning experts” scheduled to meet with Rosenberg will manage to find private transportation and hold their global warming forum today, or whether the record snow and bitter cold will force it to be rescheduled.

The record snow burying Boston this winter remains within the bounds of natural weather variability.  It is weather, not climate, and neither proves, nor disproves the theory of global warming.

Such events are, however, terribly inconvenient for the global warming narrative.  In 2000 climate scientist David Viner of Britain’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) famously proclaimed that snow was increasingly a thing of the past, saying “children just aren’t going to know what snow is.”  Fourteen years later Boston’s schoolchildren have run out of snow days.  Officials are considering cutting short their spring breaks to compensate.

Remember the next time team warming tries to hype a hot summer’s day, drought or flood as climate, rather than weather.

Did Senate President Rosenberg’s climate forum bring down the full frozen wrath of the “Al Gore effect” and shut down Boston?

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  1. Anon Anon February 10, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    This is weather, not climate change.

    • Brent Thomas Goins February 10, 2015 at 11:10 AM

      The climate is changing as it constantly does. Here we are likely seeing an influence of Solar Cycle 24 on the complex Earth climatic systems. Solar Cycle 25 is predicted to be even weaker than 25. The sun is the major driver of climate on Earth overwhelming all others! I would imagine a cooling trend might extend some decades. That is a changing climate and part of the natural cycles of the Earth and the Solar System having nothing to do with human activity and certainly NOT CO2 concentration in the atmosphere! There is nothing humans can do to markedly change Earth’s climate other than perhaps a thermonuclear war, that only temporarily though. Even ZERO CO2 emissions other than breathing would make no measurable impact on climate!

      • vacmancan February 10, 2015 at 2:46 PM

        Sweetheart I love it when you “simpel-folk” prove you don’t understand science. Thank you.

        • Giskard February 10, 2015 at 2:54 PM

          Unlike you who believes that when scientist modify the raw data to show that their hypothesis is correct, that is science. Sorry, that’s not real science and you just show how limited your thinking is when you make these statements.

          • vacmancan February 10, 2015 at 3:47 PM

            Sweetheart you claimed the scientists modified their DATA, didn’t you????? Do you have any evidence to prove your point??????? Please post it here so we can see it. Remember be specific and name your sources. Thanks

            • Giskard February 10, 2015 at 4:36 PM

              There you go sweetheart. So it appears that not only do I know how to read a thermometer, the “scientists” that support global warming don’t. But I guess this proof that the left is just dumbing down you “simple-folk” who believe all of their lies will go over your head.

              • vacmancan February 10, 2015 at 4:55 PM

                Sweetheart why don’t you read what you post so you wont embarrass yourself!!!!!! You “simpel-folk” are so easy to fool. Thanks for proving it!!!!!!!!

                • Giskard February 10, 2015 at 5:49 PM

                  Why would I be embarrassed? The raw numbers show a decrease in temps, the adjusted numbers show an increase. If these “scientists” worked for anyone but the government they would be thrown in jail. You need to give up, you just continue to show that you don’t have a grip on science and probably a very loose grip on reality. If you think you have some facts to dispute mine then post them. Otherwise go back to your mother’s basement and leave the discussions to the adults.

                • TTAS February 10, 2015 at 6:05 PM


                • Tom Moran February 10, 2015 at 8:53 PM

                  you lose vaccanman

                  • Letthemeatcake February 11, 2015 at 7:28 PM

                    His name is really vacuousman.

            • Michael Castner February 13, 2015 at 4:12 AM

              Why argue with these idiots?They think they are smart,but cant see that fox news and the cock brothers are counting on their ignorance?The sad thing is that alot of americans will fall for it because they saw it on a conservative,oil company owned news network.

        • TTAS February 10, 2015 at 6:04 PM

          vacmancan • 2 months ago

          “Sweetheart, I don’t need to know any science. I let the climate-scientists who publish “peer-reviewed” studies take care of that.

          SORRY!!!! YOU LOSE!!!

        • theantiparty February 11, 2015 at 3:13 PM

          Troll alert!

      • Michael Castner February 13, 2015 at 4:01 AM

        Where did you get your degree in climate science?

    • vacmancan February 10, 2015 at 2:44 PM

      Sweetheart the climate is changing, sorry!!!!!!

      • Giskard February 10, 2015 at 2:55 PM

        Yes, according to the raw data – it is getting colder. What’s your point?

        • vacmancan February 10, 2015 at 3:49 PM

          Sweetheart so you don’t know how to read a thermometer, do you?????? The koch brothers will be very proud of you. They spend a lot of money to dumb down you “simpel-folk” Thanks for proving it!!!!

          • Dodgy Geezer February 11, 2015 at 5:33 AM

            vacman – why do you bluster when you are proven wrong?

          • demac February 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM

            Hey do you know how to make a global warming denialist mad? tell him a lie.

            Do you know how to make a global warming believer mad? tell him the truth.

            • vacmancan February 11, 2015 at 1:03 PM

              Sweetheart do you know how to confuse a climate-denier?????? Ask them to read a thermometer!!!! Any questions??????

              • Richard Fanning February 12, 2015 at 11:13 PM

                Read this thermometer then. Apparently Acccuweather has a problem reading them because they were 10 degrees to the warm. This has happened several times. Understand why people think the data is manipulated?

        • TTAS February 10, 2015 at 6:06 PM

          vacman’s a TROLL SPAMMER!

        • OldRet February 10, 2015 at 10:00 PM

          You are correct! We are currently in a mildly warm interglacial period (the last four interglacials were warmer despite having less CO2 concentrations) of the Quaternary Ice Age and have been for about the last 12,000 years. Our planet has been cooling for about 2.6 million years. We also warm slightly during Dansgaard–Oeschger events and the interstadial events during glaciations. Although there are deviations from time to time due to a variety of climate drivers, we have been cooling again since the climatic optimum of the Holocene Epoch, which occurred about 5,000-7,000 years ago. We are currently warming back to the Medieval Warm Period levels as we recover from the Little Ice Age and anthropogenic forcing plays a small role in that change. Over the next several centuries fossil fuels will eventually be depleted, however, a smart gradual transition to alternative energy sources will also reduce the anthropogenic CO2 emissions and any anthropogenic forcing will be quickly normalized. Enjoy the warmth while it lasts before the next glaciation begins!

      • demac February 11, 2015 at 12:30 PM

        What is you point? the climate has changed since the beginning of earth. We do not live in a static environment.

  2. Brent Thomas Goins February 10, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    “It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature” nor the peoples of the world! Therefore, Mother Nature has responded by closing down the Massachusetts Global Warming Forum. It is interesting to observe the Boston Top Ten Snow Storms on record: Four of the ten occurred from 1960 to 1978 while the other six occurred from 1997 to 2015!

    • Tony Lear February 12, 2015 at 11:21 PM

      Cooling is caused by warming you denier !

  3. Otis February 10, 2015 at 4:17 PM
  4. Komissar of Reeducation February 10, 2015 at 5:31 PM

    Did you know that climate change happens four times a year?

    • Michael Castner February 13, 2015 at 3:55 AM

      No it doesnt.That statement just shows your ignorance,

  5. Ross McLeod February 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM

    vacmancan is probably one of the stupidest individuals I have ever witnessed posting a comment.
    No facts, no insight and certainly no demonstration of a cogent argument – just idiotic condescension combined with insult.
    Please whoever you are – show us you actually have the intelligence to have the right to speak publically and tell us how global warming works – in simple terms.
    It should be easy for such an intellect !

    • John Waibel February 11, 2015 at 3:58 PM

      So far every reputable scientific organization on the planet agrees that agw I’s real and should be of great concern. Sorry but I’ll trust them over a denier who can not produce a single peer reviewed study to support the denier claim. Not one

      • Steve February 11, 2015 at 6:03 PM

        John, for peer reviewed papers please have a read through… http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html

        • John Waibel February 12, 2015 at 10:29 AM

          Lol poptech. Are you serious. This is a guy who runs a denier blog. You don’t seriously believe this stuff. Pick one of his peer review studies that refuted agw. Now you can’t use ones that ate published in oil funded journals made for the very purpose to support a lie.

          Ok go ahead. Which one of his peer reviewed studies refuted agw. Mist of the studies he links to have nothing to do with agw. You sir are a fool.

          Now get on with it. Find the study that refutes agw. Haha

          • alpha2actual February 13, 2015 at 7:44 AM

            “It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” – Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace.

            “We have wished, we eco-freaks, for a disaster or for a social change to come and bomb us into Stone Age, where we might live like Indians in our valley, with our localism, our appropriate technology, our gardens, our homemade religion—guilt-free at last!” – Steward Brand, writing in the Earth Catalog.

            “Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental.” – Dave Forman, founder of Earth First.

            Quote by Club of Rome: “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill….All these dangers are caused by human intervention….and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself….believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or….one invented for the purpose.”

            Premier environmental think-tank, consultants to the United Nations“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?” Founder of the UN Environment Programme (UNEP)– Maurice Strong,

            • John Waibel March 18, 2015 at 7:22 PM

              not sure what you are getting at. random qoutes?

          • Poptech November 20, 2015 at 3:24 PM

            You need to read the rebuttals section of the list: http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html#Rebuttals

            Criticism: Some papers on the list do not argue against AGW.

            Rebuttal: This is a strawman argument as the list not only includes papers that support skeptic arguments against ACC/AGW but also Alarmism. Thus, a paper does not have to argue against AGW to still support skeptic arguments against alarmist conclusions (e.g. Hurricanes are getting worse due to global warming). Valid skeptic arguments include that AGW is exaggerated or inconsequential, such as those made by Richard S. Lindzen Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Science at MIT and John R. Christy Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Science at UAH.

            Criticism: There are no papers on the list that argue against AGW.

            Rebuttal: There are various papers on the list that explicitly argue against AGW, such as: Legates and Davis (1997), Raschke (2001), Singer (2002), Khilyuk and Chilingar (2006), Karlen (2008),Gerlich and Tscheuschner (2009), Kramm and Dlugi (2011), Zhao (2011), Beenstock et al. (2012)and more

        • John Waibel March 18, 2015 at 7:35 PM

          this is rubish. Pick out one of the studies for me that is peer reviewed by a reputable journal and is current.

      • Bob Coco February 11, 2015 at 7:51 PM

        yes, their jobs and grants depend on it, duh!

        • John Waibel February 12, 2015 at 10:49 AM

          Bob this website you seem to be a fan of has received 586000 dollars from exxon. Is it not clear to you that there is far more money in lying about climate change than proving through peer reviewed studies that it in fact real and of great concern.

          You’ve been duped man

          • alpha2actual February 13, 2015 at 7:43 AM

            Green Groups Go Red, Team With Putin To Fight Fracking

            “A shadowy Bermudan company that has funneled tens of millions of dollars to anti-fracking environmentalist groups in the United States is run by executives with deep ties to Russian oil interests and offshore money laundering schemes involving members of President Vladimir Putin’s inner circle,”

            Russia and U.S. environmentalist groups have a common goal: They both want to see fracking shut down in the U.S. Russia wants to stop it because it’s hurting that country’s oil and gas industry.

            The green groups oppose fracking simply because they loathe fossil fuels and the benefits they bring — though, apparently, not enough to stop taking Russian oil money, a fact that calls into question their integrity.

            • John Waibel March 18, 2015 at 7:27 PM

              Yes I read about this in cornhuskers4palin.com

          • Dale February 18, 2015 at 7:50 PM

            John stated, “Bob this website you seem to be a fan of has received 586000 dollars from exxon (sic).

            Presumably you feel you have a point here.
            What would $586 000 have to be multiplied by to come anywhere close to the funding that directly or indirectly goes into promoting the CAGW hoax?

            • John Waibel March 18, 2015 at 7:20 PM

              lots of proof its real. Im in the little Karoo right now, longest draught in 135 years. People here in South Africa all relate it to AGW. Just came down from Malawi, worst floods ever. Northern Namibia, longest drought. Zambia, worst flooding, imababwe, worst flooding. Cape Town hotest day ever recorded a week ago. You got to get out more

              • Dale March 18, 2015 at 7:25 PM

                Not sure how your reply relates to my question.
                As for getting out, as we are currently (in N.S.) having record snow falls and record low temperatures for this time of year, it will likely be a few days before traveling very far.

                • John Waibel March 19, 2015 at 1:09 AM

                  exactly. You too are experience extreme weather. Climate scientists predicted severe winter weather in the east and warm mild winter in the west. It has been tshirt weather since February in Vancouver. http://www.livescience.com/49881-historic-cold-us-temperatures.html

                  • Dale March 19, 2015 at 10:51 AM

                    Actually, we’ve been experiencing record breaking weather of some sort, every number of years, all my life. To break a record at some point is not at all unusual as that’s the way weather and/or climate works.
                    As even NOAA agrees, any extreme weather experienced has nothing to do with man-caused factors.

              • Dale March 18, 2015 at 7:28 PM

                “longest draught in 135 years.”
                Humm, then this isn’t all that unusual. What brought this type of drought on 35 years ago? Every year for as long as I can recall, weather records have been set somewhere in the world. That’s just the way our constantly changing climate works.

                • John Waibel March 19, 2015 at 2:08 AM

                  It is certainly unusual because that was the beginning of weather records. But it is not just the Karoo, it just happens to be a place I was in Yesterday. After traveling 4 months from Nairobi to Cape Town, every region I went to there was either record drought or record rainfall. I lived in Malawi for 6 years, I got to know the climate quite well. This year, the southern part of the country was buried under water for the first time ever.

                  Here are some stats from other regions of the world http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/

        • Michael Castner February 13, 2015 at 3:58 AM

          No they dont.you dont know what ur talking about.climate scientists would still have jobs if global warming was not occuring.

        • John Waibel March 18, 2015 at 7:34 PM

          Well no, there is far more money in denying climate change.

      • Richard Fanning February 12, 2015 at 11:05 PM

        John, the facts support the “denier” claim. Studies are a dime a dozen. I wouldn’t give most of them much weight.

        • John Waibel March 18, 2015 at 7:33 PM

          Ah no they don’t. I have yet to see a peer reviewed study that is current and published by a reputable scientific journal that supports the deniers claim. Dime a dozen, then link me to a dozen of these denier studies.

      • alpha2actual February 13, 2015 at 7:41 AM

        Warmist Helen Camakaris suggests that the threat of CO2 is so large that we need “a new kind of democracy” where voters have less power and warmist “experts” have more power.

        Tapia Granados in the online Marxist magazine, The Monthly Review, argues that the current capitalist system “has to die to allow for human progress” such as dealing with supra-national issues such as global warming. Threats such as these are so serious, he believes, that not only capitalism, but also national government must go. Only world socialism, it seems, can save us. “Capitalism will have to disappear to allow for a system more in agreement with the present stage of human civilization. That stage has led us to form a global society in which national states and governments have become historical relics, increasingly unable to cope with worldwide problems that require worldwide solutions.”

        Gus Hall, National chairman of the Communist Party: “Human society cannot basically stop the destruction of the environment under capitalism. Socialism is the only structure that makes it possible.”

        Christine Stewart Canadian Environment Minister said, “No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits . . . Climate change provides the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

        Louis Proyect of Columbia University, “The answer to global warming is in the abolition of private property and production for human need. A socialist world would place an enormous priority on alternative energy sources. This is what ecologically-minded socialists have been exploring for quite some time now.”

        Havel Wolf member of the Seattle Audubon Society says: “The Communist Party USA’s environmental program “presents a viable plan to carry out on the long march to socialism.”

        According to A Layman’s Guide to Anthropogenic (Man-Made) Global Warming

        “Fear of AGW provides a way to engage everyone in the movement. Socialists of all stripes no longer have to spew Marxist notions that turn most people off; now, they can talk the science of global warming and hurricanes and massive floods and such, and, using fear, trample the average guy into their socialist goals of stifling capitalism, growth, and having the government take over the economy through this environmental back-door.”

        Former U.S. Senator Timothy Wirth (D-CO), then representing the Clinton-Gore administration as U.S Undersecretary of State for global issues, addressing the Rio Climate Summit audience. “We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.” (Wirth now heads the UN Foundation which lobbies for hundreds of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to help underdeveloped countries fight climate change.)

        • John Waibel March 18, 2015 at 7:29 PM

          not sure what you are getting at. nice cut and paste though

    • John Waibel February 12, 2015 at 10:46 AM

      Ross being that you believe anything that is on a website that gets funding from exxon to the tune of 585000 dollars pretty much confirms to me that you ate an absolute retard. Lol. You’ve been duped dude.

      • alpha2actual February 13, 2015 at 7:30 AM

        Charitable Foundations are required to file IRS Form 990 in order to maintain their tax status. The Giving USA Institute’s annual reports show $80.4 BILLION in giving to environmental recipients, top 100 Foundations from 2000 to 2012 So much for the “Big Oil Koch Brothers” meme.

        Federal Climate Change Expenditures Report to Congress
        August 2013 for FY 2012-2014 whitehouse.gov

        Climate Change Expenditures All Agencies $39.9 Billion
        Energy Tax Provisions That MAY Reduce Greenhouse Gases* $28.2 Billion
        Energy Payment in lieu of energy investment credit** $20.9 Billion
        Total $89 Billion

        * Exclusive of the primary Greenhouse Gas which is Water Vapor
        ** Should read Pork Payments to Rent Seekers andCrony Connections

        • John Waibel March 18, 2015 at 7:31 PM

          Yes the cost to study and understand the mess fossil fuel has caused us is enormous. Unfortunately the bill goes to the tax payer.

  6. tt_tiara February 12, 2015 at 12:29 PM
  7. Tony Lear February 12, 2015 at 11:20 PM

    None of the predictions came true but especially extreme weather. There is no increase in hurricanes or tornadoes just the opposite. Right now they have changed AGAIN and are saying it’s a matter of intensity but this remains to be seen as the wind speed of hurricanes is vastly different over land than over sea as the mix up with the hurricane in the Philippines shows.
    The speed was not a record because that was over sea not land.
    Global Warming proof itself is a series of predictions from models but the reality is lower than the lowest model prediction and laughably lower than the highest which naturally are the ones used by Climate “scientists”.

  8. John Waibel February 13, 2015 at 2:55 AM

    Isn’t the breaking of another weather record het another potential cause of image change. Warm sir holds mote moisture then mire precipitation in the form of snow. Same just happened here on the west coast. Malawi just had record flood and Namibia a record drought. List goes on.

    • alpha2actual February 13, 2015 at 7:47 AM

      “I describe the climate change movement as a combination of an extreme political ideology and a religious cult all rolled into one. “It’s a very, very dangerous social phenomenon. It causes them to think they have the right to dictate what we do.”

      “By the time I left in ‘86, Greenpeace had drifted into a position of characterizing humans as the enemies of the Earth, a cancer on the planet. One of my main contentions is that to see humans as separate from nature and the ecology and the environment is defying the most important first law of ecology, which is that we are all part of nature.”

      Patrick Moore, Former Greenpeace honcho

  9. Michael Castner February 13, 2015 at 3:54 AM

    Do you think because it still snows that global warming is not occuring?

    • CFACT Ed March 4, 2015 at 10:06 PM

      We think that natural cold/snow days and natural warm days occur. Both are weather. Remember in August.

  10. Micky Mantell February 16, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    the entire planet could be frozen solid and these quasi-religious warmists would still be squawking on about global warming causing.. cooling heating hurricanes tornado’s droughts tsunamis and just about any dire weather event you can imagine.

  11. Eugenian March 7, 2015 at 12:43 AM

    Should have had it in Oregon. Our snow pack is 23% of normal. Spring is about a month early. Festivals for blooming flowers will be held with dead ones. Today (3/6) it was sunny and 60 degrees. If we don’t get a rainy summer, we’ll be looking at loss of hydro and drought. Or it could just rain all summer. Weather predictions are out the window.

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